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Mcsheffrey; Different take
Topic Started: Mar 22 2008, 09:46 PM (883 Views)
jonesy10
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Mar 23 2008, 12:58 PM
ahhh thats me beaten < <
still dont think sheffers is good enough for us though :D

i see where you was coming from that you would possible have more faith in a international and belief that the abilty will shine through, but maybe if people have the belief in sheffers it will come back.
Maybe the simple fact is that mcsheffrey isnt good enough, or maybe he is i think a new start to a season will do him good where we wont nessasarly be in a relegation battle and the pressure is off, be it in the championship or in the premiership, becuase if (and when) we stay up i cant see us being down there again.
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Mar 23 2008, 07:26 AM
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Mar 22 2008, 11:43 PM
I totally agree. We as fans are the most impatient, moaning unsupportive bunch of people I know. Each game we find a scapegoat which we watch every move on and criticise every mistake, forgetting any good moves. I agree that Sheffers is off his game at the moment, but we all know what he is capable of and tutting and moaning at every mistake is not going to help him get over his problems one iota. We all have a right to voice our opinions but half the time its only to 'big ourselves up, that we know about football' because it certainly doesn't help the player. Sheffers is an excellent player that is struggling at the moment; he needs games and support to build himself back up (although maybe this should be in the reserves once Kapo is back).

I think many fans wonder why an out of form McSheffrey is preferred to the out of favour De Ridder. That is why there are sometimes audible moans when yet another move breaks down with him. If he needs to re-capture his form, a relegation threatened first team isnt the place to do it while there are alternatives. De Ridder made three goals in the reserves in the week. If there is any frustration it's because that type of good form isn't being rewarded.

We moan because we care - just like every other set of fans anywhere. It's not a Birmingham trait - it's a football fans trait.

The term most often associated with Blues fans is 'long-suffering', often heard or read in the press and media, so to say that we are 'impatient' is laughable. We may be born, support all of our lives, and die without ever seeing the club lift a major trophy. Many have. Impatient? I dont think so!

Absolutely spot on bluediver :applause:, personally that is my frustration, Mcleish should bear the brunt of the blame for constantly picking an out of form Mcsheff and due to this failure it has added to the fans frustrations and is the reason for him being slated, normally when a player constantly under performs he gets dropped or at least that what should happen, this favouritism ahead of other players as just further adding to the fans frustration and with the lack of opertunity given to the likes of De Ridder which is blatantly apparent, the manager's judgement has to be questioned, having watched some of the highlights on sky to be fair to Mcsheff there was a couple of glimpses of good play,

I dont think it's personal or malicious i just think has football fans we are not stupid and if us mere mortals can see where something aint right we expect an experienced well paid manager to posses similar vision to make the best decisions for are club regarding team selection, tactics eg;

as far as blues fans moaning we are not unique, but as far as i am concerned you pay your money you takes your choice and as paying customer/s it's a right it's just there's a time and a place and personally i think the message board where fans can ventilate there thoughts and feeling is as a good a place as any, better here than on the terraces during games, and if the players did read the forum it might be home truths in some cases they need to hear,
Great post Bluediver **thumbup
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Mar 22 2008, 11:43 PM
I totally agree. We as fans are the most impatient, moaning unsupportive bunch of people I know. Each game we find a scapegoat which we watch every move on and criticise every mistake, forgetting any good moves. I agree that Sheffers is off his game at the moment, but we all know what he is capable of and tutting and moaning at every mistake is not going to help him get over his problems one iota. We all have a right to voice our opinions but half the time its only to 'big ourselves up, that we know about football' because it certainly doesn't help the player. Sheffers is an excellent player that is struggling at the moment; he needs games and support to build himself back up (although maybe this should be in the reserves once Kapo is back).

Sorry, but I disagree entirely. There seems to be this misconception that Blues fans in particular are so impatient and unforgiving, and that they actually enjoy having a moan about players.

I've been going to Blues for almost half a century and have never seen them win a trophy of any note, other than perhaps the play-off final at Cardiff. Most established Premiership sides would regard being in the lower tier as a disaster and therefore view winning a play-off final as being the very least they should achieve were they ever to fall from the top flight.

Yet the euphoria that I saw from Blues fans that day epitomised what they are extremely grateful for even the most modest of success stories. It was a similar story for the Auto-Windshield Trophy - an honour that many fans would say is an embarrasment for a club the size of Birmingham. Yet we celebrated with ghusto winning it.

So are fans impatient? 50-years of not wining a meaningfull trophy and much of that time being spent outside of the top flight yet we still persevere. And I'm by no means a super-supporter. I only rarely travel away. I know fans who have rarely missed any games, both home and away, in that time and longer. Are they really impatient?

Go to any ground anywhere in the world and you will hear fans moaning when things dont go right. Blues fans are no different - but to believe that we are the worst is niaive. The moans from Arsenal's fans about some of their own players during THAT game was evident to me, sat in the Kop Corner. And their forum afterwards (apart from slating a certain Blues player) was full of remarks slating certain of their own players. And they were on top of the Premiership at the time!

I disagree that we moan about individual players to 'big ourselves up' and frankly I find the comment bewildering. Players like McSheffrey and Ridgewll have been poor this season. Moaning about them on here wont make them play better - but neither will it make them play any worse. McSheffrey had half a good season in the Championship. During the latter half of our promotion season he was quite poor. The step up to the Premiership has seen that poor form continue - only here his poor form is all the more evident. If the step up is too much (as it is for many players who have shone at the lower level) then sooner or later we have to accept that. These sorts of opinions will always be expressed on forum like these.

I think many fans wonder why an out of form McSheffrey is preferred to the out of favour De Ridder. That is why there are sometimes audible moans when yet another move breaks down with him. If he needs to re-capture his form, a relegation threatened first team isnt the place to do it while there are alternatives. De Ridder made three goals in the reserves in the week. If there is any frustration it's because that type of good form isn't being rewarded.

We moan because we care - just like every other set of fans anywhere. It's not a Birmingham trait - it's a football fans trait.

The term most often associated with Blues fans is 'long-suffering', often heard or read in the press and media, so to say that we are 'impatient' is laughable. We may be born, support all of our lives, and die without ever seeing the club lift a major trophy. Many have. Impatient? I dont think so!

I good post Bluediver but I think we're arguing about two different things. I agree that Blues fans are the most patient in terms of coping with never winning (I know we've never won anything of great importance but every game we win it makes my week and I wouldn't have it any other way). But the impatience with out of form/scapegoating players is counterproductive. Sheffers started to lose his form at the beginning of last year and the fans started criticising him from day one. This is not helpful to him or the team and this is what I am complaining about. I do believe that this criticism of a player makes him play worse (the same as when the crowd gets behind the team they play better).

I have little knowledge about how other fans react to their out of form players but from what I have seen, we seem to be quite poor in 'supporting'. We are all entitled to have a good whinge when our players don't give their all (and I am certainly not immune from that; there's nothing better than a debrief and good old moan). But, all players need time to settle, all players have their off days, all players have periods of being out of form; I really don't think the 'every other thread' slating and moaning every time the player makes a poor pass helps him get over his problems.

The comment about 'bigging ourselves up' may seem a little harsh; but I just find fans so fickle sometimes. One week we will have people slating Tiny and Jonty and stating they're nowhere near good enough for the premiership; two weeks later they're getting man of the match and songs from the terraces about them. The vilification of our own players is what I find frustrating.

I'm not saying that Sheffers should be playing (in fact I think he needs a some time in the reserves); but McCleish thinks he is the better option in comparison to DeRidder, so that's good enough for me.
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Sorry but us moaning at him shouldnt make any difference when your 15 yards out and one on one with the keeper it doesnt matter what were saying he should be able to put the damn ball away instead of putting it 5 yards sodding wide and when youve got an age to put a cross in, not put it out for a goal kick.
The guys a complete embarrassment, I dont understand how he is still getting a game.
Larsson who was never fully fit and was miles better than McSheffrey, Larsson managed the whole 90 and never stopped running.
Apart from missing a one on one, crossing a ball into row Z and making one tackle - I cant remember McSheffrey doing anything - the sooner Kapo is better the flaming better.
De Ridder must be thinking how the hell am I not getting a game, McLeish must seriously not like him as a a player.
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Only going by MotD but MC Sheffery had 2 great chances - positive runs and positive thinking. If they had gone in we would be saying what a great player!
It is a very thin line between success andfailure.
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He tries his best but isnt good enough.

At this time is the season, i would have anyone on that pitch who cold do their job, however much i hated them , or however bad they are skill wise.

If the best player in the team wasn't performing well, we can' afford to have them playing.

We need players who will deliver, not those who try their best but fall way short.
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wenger measures the time each of his players spends on the ball
3 seconds is good 4 seconds means they are off form etc depending on the player
he also monitors the direction of the pass

mcsheffrey has 2 issues
1/ he spends half a second too long making his mind up for the premiership
( beckham has no pace either) the opposition close him down quickly because they know about his delivery.....he just needs to get good early crosses in and realise the goals are the same size in the premiership as the championship
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He is useless, not even fit for a place on the bench
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Mar 22 2008, 11:17 PM
Great thread. I agree with the sentiments exactly. But, if thats the case, perhaps its best for all parties involved if he just moves on? Sounds a bit unfair, but I can't see him getting his form back again unless its with another club.

I hope he proves before the end of the season that he's still the player he was. I even got his name on the back of my shirt at the beginning of the season, the first time I've had a players name on the back of my shirt since I was a kid and got Seaman on the back of England goalkeeper shirt during Euro 96 (keep your puns to yourself!).

yeah i agree same kind of situation as sadler but Sheff needs to go away and regain his form. i think a loan move for MC might work he could go to the champ regain his form then come back to blues and score lots of goals again.

thats the plan anyway :angel:
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Mar 22 2008, 09:46 PM
I'm not one for the emotional threads, but it is bugging me.

I appreciate he's not been the same player.

I was sitting infront of people who were calling him fat, useless, lazy and a pie boy at Newcastle. He's getting a roasting on here again today.

The difference in McSheffrey is he doesn't want to take players on.

He's a human being. He's so scared of making a mistake he tenses up and his normal game can't flow naturally. Partly we owe this to ourselves. He reads these boards, he knows what you say.

Look at Morten Gamst Pedersen, one of the PL's best wingers for the past couple of years. On the bench for Blackburn, HATED by their fans and now can't hit a barn door.

McSheffrey is absolutely trying his bottom off for Birmingham. He runs up and down the pitch all day long.

If you're a Bloo you're not in it for the glory, you're here because you're a supporter.

He's not a big time charlie. He's a down to earth guy who does his best for his team.

You moan because you think McLeish doesn't realise he's not in form. You moan because you want McSheffrey to know he's not playing well (like he doesn't know!?) and because you think he's not trying hard enough.

He is TRYING. The only way he will break his duck of bad form is with confidence. Ultimately, he is a BLUES player. And while he's positive about the club and gives us his best efforts, we should be giving him our FULL support.

I'm disappointed in our supporters. The atmosphere is worse than the performances sometimes.

We all love Blues, Mcsheffrey is part of that. Let's show it.

this post reminds me of that britney speers fan.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LWSjUe0FyxQ

:LMAO:
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Mar 22 2008, 11:43 PM
I totally agree. We as fans are the most impatient, moaning unsupportive bunch of people I know. Each game we find a scapegoat which we watch every move on and criticise every mistake, forgetting any good moves. I agree that Sheffers is off his game at the moment, but we all know what he is capable of and tutting and moaning at every mistake is not going to help him get over his problems one iota. We all have a right to voice our opinions but half the time its only to 'big ourselves up, that we know about football' because it certainly doesn't help the player. Sheffers is an excellent player that is struggling at the moment; he needs games and support to build himself back up (although maybe this should be in the reserves once Kapo is back).

Sorry, but I disagree entirely. There seems to be this misconception that Blues fans in particular are so impatient and unforgiving, and that they actually enjoy having a moan about players.

I've been going to Blues for almost half a century and have never seen them win a trophy of any note, other than perhaps the play-off final at Cardiff. Most established Premiership sides would regard being in the lower tier as a disaster and therefore view winning a play-off final as being the very least they should achieve were they ever to fall from the top flight.

Yet the euphoria that I saw from Blues fans that day epitomised what they are extremely grateful for even the most modest of success stories. It was a similar story for the Auto-Windshield Trophy - an honour that many fans would say is an embarrasment for a club the size of Birmingham. Yet we celebrated with ghusto winning it.

So are fans impatient? 50-years of not wining a meaningfull trophy and much of that time being spent outside of the top flight yet we still persevere. And I'm by no means a super-supporter. I only rarely travel away. I know fans who have rarely missed any games, both home and away, in that time and longer. Are they really impatient?

Go to any ground anywhere in the world and you will hear fans moaning when things dont go right. Blues fans are no different - but to believe that we are the worst is niaive. The moans from Arsenal's fans about some of their own players during THAT game was evident to me, sat in the Kop Corner. And their forum afterwards (apart from slating a certain Blues player) was full of remarks slating certain of their own players. And they were on top of the Premiership at the time!

I disagree that we moan about individual players to 'big ourselves up' and frankly I find the comment bewildering. Players like McSheffrey and Ridgewll have been poor this season. Moaning about them on here wont make them play better - but neither will it make them play any worse. McSheffrey had half a good season in the Championship. During the latter half of our promotion season he was quite poor. The step up to the Premiership has seen that poor form continue - only here his poor form is all the more evident. If the step up is too much (as it is for many players who have shone at the lower level) then sooner or later we have to accept that. These sorts of opinions will always be expressed on forum like these.

I think many fans wonder why an out of form McSheffrey is preferred to the out of favour De Ridder. That is why there are sometimes audible moans when yet another move breaks down with him. If he needs to re-capture his form, a relegation threatened first team isnt the place to do it while there are alternatives. De Ridder made three goals in the reserves in the week. If there is any frustration it's because that type of good form isn't being rewarded.

We moan because we care - just like every other set of fans anywhere. It's not a Birmingham trait - it's a football fans trait.

The term most often associated with Blues fans is 'long-suffering', often heard or read in the press and media, so to say that we are 'impatient' is laughable. We may be born, support all of our lives, and die without ever seeing the club lift a major trophy. Many have. Impatient? I dont think so!

:applause: :applause:
well said
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Mar 22 2008, 09:46 PM
I'm not one for the emotional threads, but it is bugging me.

I appreciate he's not been the same player.

I was sitting infront of people who were calling him fat, useless, lazy and a pie boy at Newcastle. He's getting a roasting on here again today.

The difference in McSheffrey is he doesn't want to take players on.

He's a human being. He's so scared of making a mistake he tenses up and his normal game can't flow naturally. Partly we owe this to ourselves. He reads these boards, he knows what you say.

Look at Morten Gamst Pedersen, one of the PL's best wingers for the past couple of years. On the bench for Blackburn, HATED by their fans and now can't hit a barn door.

McSheffrey is absolutely trying his bottom off for Birmingham. He runs up and down the pitch all day long.

If you're a Bloo you're not in it for the glory, you're here because you're a supporter.

He's not a big time charlie. He's a down to earth guy who does his best for his team.

You moan because you think McLeish doesn't realise he's not in form. You moan because you want McSheffrey to know he's not playing well (like he doesn't know!?) and because you think he's not trying hard enough.

He is TRYING. The only way he will break his duck of bad form is with confidence. Ultimately, he is a BLUES player. And while he's positive about the club and gives us his best efforts, we should be giving him our FULL support.

I'm disappointed in our supporters. The atmosphere is worse than the performances sometimes.

We all love Blues, Mcsheffrey is part of that. Let's show it.

this post reminds me of that britney speers fan.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LWSjUe0FyxQ

:LMAO:

You remind me of an illiterate chav off Coronation Street.

Got Ches back yet and tidied up?

It's all love. :kiss:

When this is the way McSheffrey gets treat by our supporters, I wouldn't blame him for just giving up and thinking **** you all, I'll collect my wages.

You have to consider it from his point of view. If you had a bad week at work and your colleagues took the **** constantly, it would be hard to stay focused.
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Mar 22 2008, 09:46 PM
I'm not one for the emotional threads, but it is bugging me.

I appreciate he's not been the same player.

I was sitting infront of people who were calling him fat, useless, lazy and a pie boy at Newcastle. He's getting a roasting on here again today.

The difference in McSheffrey is he doesn't want to take players on.

He's a human being. He's so scared of making a mistake he tenses up and his normal game can't flow naturally. Partly we owe this to ourselves. He reads these boards, he knows what you say.

Look at Morten Gamst Pedersen, one of the PL's best wingers for the past couple of years. On the bench for Blackburn, HATED by their fans and now can't hit a barn door.

McSheffrey is absolutely trying his bottom off for Birmingham. He runs up and down the pitch all day long.

If you're a Bloo you're not in it for the glory, you're here because you're a supporter.

He's not a big time charlie. He's a down to earth guy who does his best for his team.

You moan because you think McLeish doesn't realise he's not in form. You moan because you want McSheffrey to know he's not playing well (like he doesn't know!?) and because you think he's not trying hard enough.

He is TRYING. The only way he will break his duck of bad form is with confidence. Ultimately, he is a BLUES player. And while he's positive about the club and gives us his best efforts, we should be giving him our FULL support.

I'm disappointed in our supporters. The atmosphere is worse than the performances sometimes.

We all love Blues, Mcsheffrey is part of that. Let's show it.

this post reminds me of that britney speers fan.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LWSjUe0FyxQ

:LMAO:

come on Doc after all he's been through leave him alone he'sa human if you have got at a problem with britney, i mean Mcsheffrey you'll have to get through me first i dont no why he underperforms for you B******s
:LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO:
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Mar 24 2008, 05:40 PM
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Mar 22 2008, 09:46 PM
I'm not one for the emotional threads, but it is bugging me.

I appreciate he's not been the same player.

I was sitting infront of people who were calling him fat, useless, lazy and a pie boy at Newcastle. He's getting a roasting on here again today.

The difference in McSheffrey is he doesn't want to take players on.

He's a human being. He's so scared of making a mistake he tenses up and his normal game can't flow naturally. Partly we owe this to ourselves. He reads these boards, he knows what you say.

Look at Morten Gamst Pedersen, one of the PL's best wingers for the past couple of years. On the bench for Blackburn, HATED by their fans and now can't hit a barn door.

McSheffrey is absolutely trying his bottom off for Birmingham. He runs up and down the pitch all day long.

If you're a Bloo you're not in it for the glory, you're here because you're a supporter.

He's not a big time charlie. He's a down to earth guy who does his best for his team.

You moan because you think McLeish doesn't realise he's not in form. You moan because you want McSheffrey to know he's not playing well (like he doesn't know!?) and because you think he's not trying hard enough.

He is TRYING. The only way he will break his duck of bad form is with confidence. Ultimately, he is a BLUES player. And while he's positive about the club and gives us his best efforts, we should be giving him our FULL support.

I'm disappointed in our supporters. The atmosphere is worse than the performances sometimes.

We all love Blues, Mcsheffrey is part of that. Let's show it.

this post reminds me of that britney speers fan.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LWSjUe0FyxQ

:LMAO:

come on Doc after all he's been through leave him alone he'sa human if you have got at a problem with britney, i mean Mcsheffrey you'll have to get through me first i dont no why he underperforms for you B******s
:LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO:
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It seems chavs are beginning to understand how keyboards work.

****, we're doomed.

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I have said this before, My mate is a cov fan and said when we signed him that this would happen, he did the same there
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Mar 22 2008, 09:46 PM
I'm not one for the emotional threads, but it is bugging me.

I appreciate he's not been the same player.

I was sitting infront of people who were calling him fat, useless, lazy and a pie boy at Newcastle. He's getting a roasting on here again today.

The difference in McSheffrey is he doesn't want to take players on.

He's a human being. He's so scared of making a mistake he tenses up and his normal game can't flow naturally. Partly we owe this to ourselves. He reads these boards, he knows what you say.

Look at Morten Gamst Pedersen, one of the PL's best wingers for the past couple of years. On the bench for Blackburn, HATED by their fans and now can't hit a barn door.

McSheffrey is absolutely trying his bottom off for Birmingham. He runs up and down the pitch all day long.

If you're a Bloo you're not in it for the glory, you're here because you're a supporter.

He's not a big time charlie. He's a down to earth guy who does his best for his team.

You moan because you think McLeish doesn't realise he's not in form. You moan because you want McSheffrey to know he's not playing well (like he doesn't know!?) and because you think he's not trying hard enough.

He is TRYING. The only way he will break his duck of bad form is with confidence. Ultimately, he is a BLUES player. And while he's positive about the club and gives us his best efforts, we should be giving him our FULL support.

I'm disappointed in our supporters. The atmosphere is worse than the performances sometimes.

We all love Blues, Mcsheffrey is part of that. Let's show it.

this post reminds me of that britney speers fan.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LWSjUe0FyxQ

:LMAO:

come on Doc after all he's been through leave him alone he'sa human if you have got at a problem with britney, i mean Mcsheffrey you'll have to get through me first i dont no why he underperforms for you B******s
:LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO:
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It seems chavs are beginning to understand how keyboards work.

****, we're doomed.

:D
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Mar 24 2008, 06:48 PM
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Mar 24 2008, 05:40 PM
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Mar 22 2008, 09:46 PM
I'm not one for the emotional threads, but it is bugging me.

I appreciate he's not been the same player.

I was sitting infront of people who were calling him fat, useless, lazy and a pie boy at Newcastle. He's getting a roasting on here again today.

The difference in McSheffrey is he doesn't want to take players on.

He's a human being. He's so scared of making a mistake he tenses up and his normal game can't flow naturally. Partly we owe this to ourselves. He reads these boards, he knows what you say.

Look at Morten Gamst Pedersen, one of the PL's best wingers for the past couple of years. On the bench for Blackburn, HATED by their fans and now can't hit a barn door.

McSheffrey is absolutely trying his bottom off for Birmingham. He runs up and down the pitch all day long.

If you're a Bloo you're not in it for the glory, you're here because you're a supporter.

He's not a big time charlie. He's a down to earth guy who does his best for his team.

You moan because you think McLeish doesn't realise he's not in form. You moan because you want McSheffrey to know he's not playing well (like he doesn't know!?) and because you think he's not trying hard enough.

He is TRYING. The only way he will break his duck of bad form is with confidence. Ultimately, he is a BLUES player. And while he's positive about the club and gives us his best efforts, we should be giving him our FULL support.

I'm disappointed in our supporters. The atmosphere is worse than the performances sometimes.

We all love Blues, Mcsheffrey is part of that. Let's show it.

this post reminds me of that britney speers fan.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LWSjUe0FyxQ

:LMAO:

You remind me of an illiterate chav off Coronation Street.

Got Ches back yet and tidied up?

It's all love. :kiss:

When this is the way McSheffrey gets treat by our supporters, I wouldn't blame him for just giving up and thinking **** you all, I'll collect my wages.

You have to consider it from his point of view. If you had a bad week at work and your colleagues took the **** constantly, it would be hard to stay focused.

watch the mouth pa i was laughing at the guy in the video not you.

it's plainly clear that mcsheffery is'nt good enuogh for this division, thats not his fault he's doing the best he can and this is why i hav'nt barrecked most of the team not just him.

some are vocal about the players me i just keep stum they wont be here next season if we stay up.

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I'm not one for the emotional threads, but it is bugging me.

I appreciate he's not been the same player.

I was sitting infront of people who were calling him fat, useless, lazy and a pie boy at Newcastle. He's getting a roasting on here again today.

The difference in McSheffrey is he doesn't want to take players on.

He's a human being. He's so scared of making a mistake he tenses up and his normal game can't flow naturally. Partly we owe this to ourselves. He reads these boards, he knows what you say.

Look at Morten Gamst Pedersen, one of the PL's best wingers for the past couple of years. On the bench for Blackburn, HATED by their fans and now can't hit a barn door.

McSheffrey is absolutely trying his bottom off for Birmingham. He runs up and down the pitch all day long.

If you're a Bloo you're not in it for the glory, you're here because you're a supporter.

He's not a big time charlie. He's a down to earth guy who does his best for his team.

You moan because you think McLeish doesn't realise he's not in form. You moan because you want McSheffrey to know he's not playing well (like he doesn't know!?) and because you think he's not trying hard enough.

He is TRYING. The only way he will break his duck of bad form is with confidence. Ultimately, he is a BLUES player. And while he's positive about the club and gives us his best efforts, we should be giving him our FULL support.

I'm disappointed in our supporters. The atmosphere is worse than the performances sometimes.

We all love Blues, Mcsheffrey is part of that. Let's show it.

this post reminds me of that britney speers fan.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LWSjUe0FyxQ

:LMAO:

You remind me of an illiterate chav off Coronation Street.

Got Ches back yet and tidied up?

It's all love. :kiss:

When this is the way McSheffrey gets treat by our supporters, I wouldn't blame him for just giving up and thinking **** you all, I'll collect my wages.

You have to consider it from his point of view. If you had a bad week at work and your colleagues took the **** constantly, it would be hard to stay focused.

watch the mouth pa i was laughing at the guy in the video not you.

it's plainly clear that mcsheffery is'nt good enuogh for this division, thats not his fault he's doing the best he can and this is why i hav'nt barrecked most of the team not just him.

some are vocal about the players me i just keep stum they wont be here next season if we stay up.

You said my post reminded you of him.

You were talking about me.

Glad to hear you're not verbally abusing Mac anyway. You've my respect for that.
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Mar 25 2008, 02:25 PM
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Mar 24 2008, 06:48 PM
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Mar 24 2008, 05:40 PM
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Mar 22 2008, 09:46 PM
I'm not one for the emotional threads, but it is bugging me.

I appreciate he's not been the same player.

I was sitting infront of people who were calling him fat, useless, lazy and a pie boy at Newcastle. He's getting a roasting on here again today.

The difference in McSheffrey is he doesn't want to take players on.

He's a human being. He's so scared of making a mistake he tenses up and his normal game can't flow naturally. Partly we owe this to ourselves. He reads these boards, he knows what you say.

Look at Morten Gamst Pedersen, one of the PL's best wingers for the past couple of years. On the bench for Blackburn, HATED by their fans and now can't hit a barn door.

McSheffrey is absolutely trying his bottom off for Birmingham. He runs up and down the pitch all day long.

If you're a Bloo you're not in it for the glory, you're here because you're a supporter.

He's not a big time charlie. He's a down to earth guy who does his best for his team.

You moan because you think McLeish doesn't realise he's not in form. You moan because you want McSheffrey to know he's not playing well (like he doesn't know!?) and because you think he's not trying hard enough.

He is TRYING. The only way he will break his duck of bad form is with confidence. Ultimately, he is a BLUES player. And while he's positive about the club and gives us his best efforts, we should be giving him our FULL support.

I'm disappointed in our supporters. The atmosphere is worse than the performances sometimes.

We all love Blues, Mcsheffrey is part of that. Let's show it.

this post reminds me of that britney speers fan.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LWSjUe0FyxQ

:LMAO:

You remind me of an illiterate chav off Coronation Street.

Got Ches back yet and tidied up?

It's all love. :kiss:

When this is the way McSheffrey gets treat by our supporters, I wouldn't blame him for just giving up and thinking **** you all, I'll collect my wages.

You have to consider it from his point of view. If you had a bad week at work and your colleagues took the **** constantly, it would be hard to stay focused.

watch the mouth pa i was laughing at the guy in the video not you.

it's plainly clear that mcsheffery is'nt good enuogh for this division, thats not his fault he's doing the best he can and this is why i hav'nt barrecked most of the team not just him.

some are vocal about the players me i just keep stum they wont be here next season if we stay up.

You said my post reminded you of him.

You were talking about me.

Glad to hear you're not verbally abusing Mac anyway. You've my respect for that.

no it was just a laugh, you should'nt be so paranoid.
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